Fark: CIA asks "Bin-Laden Who?"
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Here ya go
I can't believe this shit.
So Osama Bin Laden doesn't "oversee day to day operations of Al-Qaeda". Let's assume that's true (he's probably dead), but at the same time draw a comparison.
An old man shoots his wife, three children, their families friends and pets. He goes to trial and is found to potentially have advanced rheumetoid (sp: way too lazy) arthritis. Since he might not be able to pull the trigger again, they let him go. Even if he never kills again, is that right?
We let the asshole go and now we're wiping the shit off our face by saying he's not a big deal after all... -
He still wasn't charged with the 9/11 attack. That always gets me.
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What is the current goal? Basically, I hear that we succeeded because of a, b, and c followed by we need to be vigilant so we can complete the mission via d, e, and f.
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hurr it's thinkprogress. a lib rag. worthless yellow propaganda hit piece.
full of citations and direct quotes
Thought I'd head that off at the pass. It's one of the best portraits of the moving goalposts we've had over in Iraq.
But the initial mission statement in Afghanistan had 3 points:
o Capture Osama bin Laden
o Destroy al-Qaeda
x Remove the Taliban regime which had provided support and safe harbor to al-Qaeda.
33% is failing in every class I've ever taken.
and by giving up on #1 we're guaranteeing a maximum of a 67%. I don't think that's exactly acceptable. -
Without looking into it much, do we even know if Osama is alive any more? Kind of hard to find a dead man. I haven't seen any indication in the last few years that he is still alive, much less directing the show which would make him easier to find. Yes, I completely agree that he should be caught and tried for his crimes, but I think there is a point where it becomes near impossible to find someone if they don't want to found. Assuming anyone on this forum had large amounts of funds at your disposal, I would like to think that you could disappear into the US, especially with lots of people willing to hide you.
I also think that trying to validate finding Osama Bin Laden as being as important as either of the other two is impractical. Destroy Al Qaeda (probably never going to happen because it's really hard to kill off an ideology) and removing the Taliban from power are much more important in the grand scheme of things as opposed to capturing Bin Laden. Think two 40 point essays and a 20 point short answer on your exam. Right now they've earned about a 25, a 40 and a 0 (If he's dead can you even consider this valid exam question?).
I think you're right, we should have completed all three things. But looking at them as black and white numbers is impractical. -
You're most likely right. The dude's dead. But the way I see it we used our anger at that one man to justify a war in Afghanistan. Bring him to justice and all that. Before that nobody here had heard of the Taliban and only for his being the leader, we knew of al-qaeda as "those assholes who attacked us". we got over there and our boys got killed by extremists. We got more pissed at the Taliban and Alqaeda. We then used Alqaeda in iraq (even though they weren't until we went there, and even then they aren't affiliated with Alqaeda in afghanistan) as justification for suddenly being extra scared of hussein. If he gets wmd's what if al qaeda gets it and blows us to hell and back!?
The WHOLE thing stems back to us being manipulated by the invocation of one man. And now we are just supposed to go, "oh well, guess not." and then follow it up with, "stay the course!"
shenanigans.
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