Beer Economics!
  • mungomungo October 2008
    Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten

    comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go

    something like this:

    The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.

    The fifth would pay $1.

    The sixth would pay $3.

    The seventh would pay $7.

    The eighth would pay $12.

    The ninth would pay $18.

    The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

    So, that's what they decided to do.



    The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the

    arrangement, until one day, the owner threw? them a curve. "Since you are

    all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your

    daily beer by $20." Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.



    The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the

    first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what

    about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the

    $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?' They realized

    that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from

    everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up

    being paid? to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be

    fair to? reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded

    to work out? the amounts each should pay.



    And so:

    The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).

    The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).

    The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).

    The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).

    The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).

    The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

    Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued

    to? drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to

    compare their savings.



    I only got a dollar out of the $20,"declared the sixth man. He pointed to

    the tenth man," but he got $10!" "Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth

    man. "I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more

    than I!" "That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10

    back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!" "Wait a minute,"

    yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The

    system exploits the poor!"



    The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.



    The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down

    and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they

    discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all

    of them for even half of the bill!



    And that, ladies and gentlemen, journalists and college professors, is how

    our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most

    benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being

    wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start

    drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.



    David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.

    Professor of Economics

    University of Georgia

  • JeddHamptonJeddHampton October 2008
    http://www.fdassault.com/index.php?showtopic=1019

    Posted before, but I'd love to see the same discussion unfold again.
  • GachiGachi October 2008
    yeah, you dumb fag. Learn to forum search before posting again! jk image/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> I <3 u
  • NunesNunes October 2008
    I'll kick things off with a different focus.

    Professor David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D. didn't write this. And had no knowledge of his name's appearance on it until it was sent to his email. The attempt to legitimize this by invoking the title "professor" at the end displays a lack of confidence in its content.
  • mungomungo October 2008
    QUOTE (ANunes @ Oct 21 2008, 12:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I'll kick things off with a different focus.

    Professor David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D. didn't write this. And had no knowledge of his name's appearance on it until it was sent to his email. The attempt to legitimize this by invoking the title "professor" at the end displays a lack of confidence in its content.



    Haha I didn't know that. I thought it was funny, that's all.
  • NunesNunes October 2008
    Not a whole lot of people seem to. Which is why I tend to repeat it every time I see this thing. It is a pretty charming way of describing the basics of supply side economics though. Even if it is an extreme oversimplification, it's still a decent illustration. My problem with it is that it's not used like that so much as a tool to keep people brainwashed with Reaganomics. It's not the ONLY way to look at the economy, but it IS the most entertaining and therefore the most prevelant.

    "The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up." And that's what the rich are buying with their extra taxes. Insurance against this exact thing happening.
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